Speaker 1 (00:03):
Okay, I think I may need to stop. Okay. All right. Alright, well hello, this is Rhonda Veder with Illuminated Pathways Family Therapy and I am going to be introducing you someone to someone who’s an incredible person here at Illuminate Pathways. But before we begin, I want to tell you a little bit about who we are. Again, my name is Rhonda Ves. I’m an LPC supervisor with the state of Texas and I’m the owner of this practice. And since 2015, my team has offered comprehensive mental health services to individuals from all walks of life in the Clear Lake area and Conroe area. Now as of January and in Missouri City as of February and our group practices uses evidence-based treatment such as talk therapy, play therapy for children and other proven methods like trauma-focused CBT to help those who have had traumatic experiences. While these remain central to our care, recent personal experiences that have led me to reevaluate traditional approaches to mental health, such as I’ve come to value a holistic view, whole body and mind and spirit that helps us better address our unique needs, therapeutic options before considering medication and empowering others, those who come in here options before and give them informed choices so that they know what’s available for them and your initial consultation should you want one, then you can call the office at seven six eight zero seven five four and you can schedule one with one of our many counselors here.
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We take time to learn about what you’re seeking and so we can recommend a therapist that suits you best. Your preferences and goals are always at the heart of our care. We look forward to accompanying you on your mental health journey and they’re eager to support you in every step of the way. So how can we best serve you? Thank you so much for being with us today. I’m excited to introduce to you Duo Samo and she is one of our newest counselors here and we have just really grown to love her and the feedback from her actual patients that she has have also given great feedback and so that really tells us that we’re a really good match and so we’re really excited about that. So share a while, like your career choices prior to counseling. What were you doing before and kind of share with us that experience.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Okay. Before I transitioned to counseling, I was a lawyer. I was called to in year 2006 and it’s been a journey till when I transitioned to counseling in 2021. So it is been a journey, as I said earlier, because I wanted to be a lawyer, to have a background story, wanting to be a lawyer. When I gave my life to Christ, I was privileged to go to a church where you are asked to make a deliberate effort to ask God about your purpose in life. So I went asking God and I felt God leading me to talk to people about him, about marriage, about counseling and all that, to advise people basically. And the closest I could get in my country of origin, which is Nigeria, was to be a lawyer. And I went to be a lawyer and I had a successful career. However, I noticed that when people come to my Lord Chambers, they’ve had so many mistakes in the past.
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So I thought about it that the family system, most of these problems stems from the family system. If the family system can be collected, if people know what to do from the family system, the dad, the mom raising children, the marriage, if the marriage is working, it transitions to the children and to the society at large. So I thought about it, what could I do if I could counsel people from the family system? So I went back to become a licensed marriage and family therapist and that has been a good thing because now I help marriages, I help people make good choices, I help them in parenting, letting the skills to parent their children so that the society is better for it as they all.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Very cool. So what sparked you into becoming a counselor was when you found Jesus?
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
That’s wonderful. And that was in Nigeria?
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Yes. So give us that experience, your conversion.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Oh, okay. So I was in what you call high school years, what we call it secondary school in Nigeria. So I was in high school, but I went to a boarding school. So in that boarding school we have a fellowship. So this Facebook day, someone was invited to that fellowship from our side and that person told us about the love of Jesus. I have never added in that light that Jesus loved us to the extent of dying for us. I’ve always said it like Jesus died for us, but it didn’t make sense. But that day it made so much sense that Jesus loved me. I asked to die, but I said, no, don’t kill her, I’m going to die instead of her. And that made absolute sense because in my mind I was thinking no one could have wanted to die for me. Someone took my place, I sinned and they said, no, I’m going to take her place. So that was profound for me. And because of that, I gave my life to Christ. There was a moment I was crying for my sin, but the next instance I was joyful. I was jumping as in the transition was just, it was a stunt. I went as a sinner crying. I was sobbing for my sin. And the next stand I was joyful. It was as if I was washed clean. Well
Speaker 1 (06:24):
The scripture talks about that, right? Yes, absolutely. He does wash us clean.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
I experienced that.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
That’s moment,
Speaker 2 (06:29):
That one.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Beautiful. Praise the Lord. I love that. Okay. How long have you been in the USA? And you had mentioned you’re from Nigeria and that’s the country you grew up in?
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
So how long have you been here?
Speaker 2 (06:42):
I’ve been here for over seven years now.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
And where did you move directly to Houston or where
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Has your
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Journey been in the us?
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Okay, so we moved straight to Kingsville, which is a city in Texas, Kingsville, Texas, Kingsville,
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Texas,
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Kingsville. Yeah. Okay. So we moved to Kingsville, Texas because my husband came here to study and he works in the oil and gas company in America in Nigeria. So yeah, he came to further that part of his education. So that was what brought us. After he finished, we moved to Houston. So we’ve been in new since 2020. 2020.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
So is Kingsville West Texas? Where is Kingsville? I don’t even know.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Okay, so Kingsville is close, is close to Corpus Christi.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Yeah. So I don’t know whether it’s south or not the west, I dunno. But it’s close to 30 minutes or thereabout from Kingsville. Alright.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
So being the best Christian counseling Texas has to offer, knowing that you are from or where you moved to Kingsville, which is near Corpus Christi, there’s opportunity. Maybe people could be listening and remember you and go, wow, I might need counseling, I might need her. So that’s really a beautiful idea to, because we can serve Texas as all Yes
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Everywhere in Texas.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Yes, absolutely. So that’s very nice. And we always talk about the ocean, the Gulf of America now, but you go to Galveston, the ocean’s not as beautiful, you go to Corpus and it’s pretty right. So what was that? Do you go to the water often? Yes. What was that like for you?
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Yeah, it was all different. When I went to the one at G was like, why this is dirty. But that one was and was Wave you show with gava, but this was really wavy and a little bit cleaner than,
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Well they always say that’s the way we kind of have a cove. And so it gets all washed in there. There are times I’ve actually seen a very clear light porus, not very often, but I have seen it a few times
Speaker 2 (09:03):
That stuff.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
So I think it’s when we get a really good storm and it washes everything out and so it’s really kind of actually the next day or two, it’s really been pretty. Yeah. So yeah. Very cool. So Duo, it’s wonderful that you showed up in an interview and I really remember that first interview and was excited to hear about your journey. What was it that had you choose IPFT?
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Okay, so when I read on the website that this is a Christian counseling and that resonates with me because first I’m a Christian, I’m a spirit being. So I want a place where I want to come as a whole. I don’t want to put my Christianity or my person at home and come do therapy. I won’t be sure enough for my clients as authentic as I want to be because my Christian values are part of who I am as I’m not imposing it on people, but I just don’t want to put that part of me back. I’m not sure it authentically as I could. So when I came here and we call it the Christian counseling where Christ talking with you was like, oh, I was talking, we were talking about how Christ has impacted your life, how this is the place you want to serve God yourself. That resonates with me. This is what I want to do. I want to help people because these are God’s people and if they’re hurting, I want to be a part of that healing journey. I find you saying the same thing, that this is where God wants to be, you want to serve God. Lot of God people, even in counseling, that really resonates with me and that’s why I chose to be part of IPF
Speaker 1 (10:57):
To our business here.
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So we usually give it the IPFT, which is Illuminated Pathways Family Therapy. So sorry for the acronym, but maybe going forward we’ll say Illuminated Pathways and just cut it off, cut it off my way through. But I have been a counselor working in the field since 2008 and I’ve been in different places where everywhere I’ve worked I’ve had my bible with me and each of those locations that I worked at told me I had to take my Bible home. And I kind of was a little rebellious and I didn’t take my Bible home because like she mentioned, duo mentioned Christianity. Jesus, it’s part of who I am. So it’s like I’m going to walk into a room and do therapy with somebody. I’m going to leave half of me out of the room when really the whole of me is really what Jesus has done in my life.
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And so that’s when I walk into the room, you get the true Rhonda, if I have to leave part of me out, it’s not going to be authentic. And the people in front of me could see that and I had to be kind of careful about what I could say or not say in those other arenas. And so I didn’t like that. And so although I did try to get around that the best I could, and many times people would tell me that they were faith-based and that they would really like to hear or they would ask me questions. They knew something was different in my delivery. They had been in therapies before. So when I started Illuminated Pathways, I was also an associate pastor at a Nazarene church in Webster, Texas. And I was able to go and Ritz space from the church. And so when I wasn’t being a pastor, I was able to go up to my therapy and begin practice. And so that idea just really was a beautiful thing. And not everybody that walks into our place are Christian, we want to serve God’s people. That means everybody, this place is no judgment
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And it shouldn’t be. And if it is, then you talk to me because that shouldn’t have happened.
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And so we have people that are atheist or agnostic or they’re Wiccan and so we just meet them where they are. And so that is our goal, but we want to be our true self though. So our website’s pretty clear about who we are and they still choose us. That’s what makes it special, that makes it feel like this is God’s business and duo and I get a pleasure of sitting in the chair to serve this community of people that walk through our door, every person has prayed for here before they walk in the door whether we’ve seen you or not. And so we just want it to always be that environment that you’ll experience the best Christian counseling Texas has to offer. And we want that to be your experience as we know it’s our experience. I know also last year we received a business rate, I guess it’s Google business rate award.
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We’re in the top three of Harris County counseling centers and that was very exciting to receive that. So then in January when we opened up Conroe up in Montgomery County, and then in February we opened up Missouri City’s office in Fort Bend County. And we are really excited to see what that looks like. So if you ever get the nudge or you would like to give us a Google review and let us know how we did on this podcast, that would be great. And you can go find us on Google and see about doing that. That’d be awesome. So as the best Christian counseling Texas has to offer, what population of people do you see?
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Okay, so I see married couples, I see primary couples, I see teams and I see children 10 and above.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Okay, children 10 and above. So obviously you’re dual license too, right? Yes. So you’re an LPC and an LMFT and associate in both. So you’re getting your hours just it’s a lot to do that. But I love that she’s at a place that she can be supported and the journey too.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
And I think God gave that to me because I went into my program to be a licensed marriage and family therapist. However, along the journey we lost the accreditation and that was added. And this happened one day when I was like, God, I know you brought me to this field. I dunno what to do. I don’t know what’s going on. And that was the day this was added. So I had dual license on the day I was complaining to God, you see how God works? I was like, complain to God, I don’t know what I’m doing here. I don’t know why I’m here. And he gave me that this is a reward, I’m going to support you. You’re doing this for me. So that was just a confirmation that I’m doing what is right. Right.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Very good. I also believe too that knowing that your whole background too, as I tell people who come work for us, there’s going to be a time you’re going to be subpoenaed. You come work for Ms. Rhonda. And the kind of work that we do here, it’s not because we go out and we look for the subpoena, but we work with families and we work with trauma and we work with those that have been really abused as a teen or a child. And there’s criminal suits that also go in play. So I know that having her have been a lawyer also, she kind of gets it right where the new people come in here that don’t have that, they’re like, what a subpoena. I’m going to be subpoenaed. Yes. But it’s a good thing because it teaches them how to keep records, what’s it like to pull them together
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And how to really kind get yourself. And then I’ve been, not that I brag about it, but I’ve been so many times, probably since 2008, I’ve probably been about 50, 60 times into the courtroom to support my families or my children. And so I am pretty familiar and so I’m pretty at ease and so I’m able to put others at ease. And so with that being your experience, that would be super helpful too. You probably slip into that, help people feel a little more comfortable, what to expect. That’s really exciting. Okay. What have you learned? Okay, now I would like us to banter back and forth a little bit here. What have you learned here at Illuminated Pathways that maybe surprised you or it’s excited you, the labor that a little bit and kind of so that the people who might want to come here and choose you. What would be those things that excited you that you didn’t anticipate that you would be doing or learning?
Speaker 2 (18:17):
One of the things that excited me was the animal therapy. Like the dog, Dwight is awesome. It can really fuel you. And that’s one thing I didn’t have that experience in other places like dog therapy, the animal tool, helping you with your emotions as going through those emotions. And your emotions can go either ways. So whatever is happening with you, do what the dog, the therapy dog is there to help you go through that process, which is a plus. So that was something exciting for me. Another thing is the support here. You feel like you are at home here. So as just rightly said earlier, this is a non-judgment zone. So no one is judging you for what you’ve done, what you’re doing, just for us to help you in your growth process. So that’s another thing too. The support is not only for clients, but the staff too have been supported, the counselors have been supported. So that’s one great thing that is really happening here. So you can come, you’ll be at home here. This is all away from your home. You’ll be glad with it.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Yes. And I think that’s so true. Sometimes the best Christian counseling Texas has to offer coming here is the dog therapy. It really is. And so there is Dwight and then Bella’s our, so just a second here. Dwight. Dwight, let’s go. Dwight, come here. Come here baby. Come here, come here. Want to come up here? D, let’s go D. Right, let’s go up here.
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Load up. Load up. Okay. Right here. Come on left. Okay, so I don’t know. Come here baby. I don’t know if you can see him. Come here. Come here. There we go. So here is Dwight. He’s our sweet boy and he’s so gentle. He can be hyper and excited when you are, but in general, when he gets in the room, he does chill out, right? He’s very, very sweet. And so we just love having him here. Then Bella, so this is our standard poodle and then Bella’s our golden retriever, and we rescued her August 1st. And so she’s kind of a little, Dwight is showing her around how to do things. So sometimes she gets in the therapy room, not always, but she’ll be trained soon to do the same work he does. And so our guests, which are our clients, they like the dogs. And so sometimes we have three therapy rooms and two dogs. So it becomes like, well, can I have the dog? No, I get the dog today. So it’s really a special venue.
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Is there any other area that, well, I guess talking about it, therapy, being in the home, a home as first as an office space, which might come one day, but since COVID, when everybody was sent home to work, I still had people to see. So my house is just my husband and I. And so the house is pretty big, and so it’s pretty much all business except for one or two rooms. And so I promised him, I know this is kind of silly, but I promised him never to kick our bed out of the house. We don’t have anywhere else to go, but everything else is the business. It truly is. And so what is it like knowing that you’re in a home versus in the traditional workplace?
Speaker 2 (22:12):
So in the beginning I thought about it that, oh, I would’ve preferred an office, an office, traditional office place compared to a home office. However, coming here I found out that there wasn’t any interference. Maybe children running around, all our children are grown and they moved out of the house. So there’s no interference, other people getting into therapy where you are there. So this is a home, but still as the traditional office and experience, so to speak. So yeah, there have been a problem since I started working here.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Yeah, that’s awesome. Yeah, so yeah, it was just my husband and I and the dogs. And my husband also is part owner of the business, and so he does anything it has to do with a dollar sign. So that’s his role. And then I get to do everything else, operational or therapeutically. So we’ve been doing Illuminate pathways for 11 years and it’s been really, really exciting to see that come along the best Christian counseling Texas has to offer. We talked about quite a few things. We talked about animal therapy, we talked about marriage and family therapy, we talked about systems and whether you’re married or not, systems. So I know we do Simbi, was that new for you to be a facilitator for Simbi Save Your Marriage before it starts?
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Yeah, that was new for me, however, I’ve read about it, I’ve read about it. Someone to have told me she uses it. She’s a therapist and she uses it in her practice. So working with it and becoming a facilitator was a game changer because now I’ve used it with my clients and it’s been phenomenal. People have seen the effect of it in their marriage. So becoming a facilitator was good and was really impactful. Good. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
So it’s called Symbis, another acronym, but save Your Marriage Before It Starts. And Dr. Les and Doctors Less, and Leslie Parrot, I remember them from Illinois at Olivette Nazarene University when I lived in Michigan, I know that they were there. They are the developers of this. And so it already comes with it, not has a Christian piece to it, but if you’re not a Christian, you don’t have to worry about it. You don’t have to answer those questions. But the neat part about it is the statistics that come out of that. So whether you’re premarital or you’ve been married five years, 20 years, 30 years, 50 years, this assessment’s good for across the board and it really pulls up all the little pieces as you evolve in your life in the marriage. And so it kind of shows where to tweak things. Your marriage doesn’t have to be broken to do it either.
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It just can enhance your marriage, which is beautiful. And so the assessment, anybody who completes it, the couples that complete it and then go through the six to seven weeks of going over it, if there is a tendency to maybe that the marriage is on rock like a rocky ground or they feel they’re not going to stay if they do it, 94% of the people who go through this assessment, their marriage is saved. Now that’s pretty amazing statistics, but I know that to be true because I’ve been doing it now for several years and I already thought that just being as a pastor and being a Christian and really helping people see where things could go wrong in a marriage or the things to think about before getting married,
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Those
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Are the things that actually come up in this assessment. And so I thought my statistics were pretty good at keeping, people had come to me and they were divorced. I’ve had three different couples get remarried, so this is pretty amazing. That was before the assessment. With the assessment, I can only imagine how many more families, their family structure, their family system that she talks about will be saved no matter the issue. Now there might be a flavor of pro-marriage, but obviously there are times when that’s not supported based on certain types of behaviors in that marriage. So please don’t think that if you come here, we’re thinking that anything that is being done to you that’s not godly for sure, right? Super not okay. We’re not going to make a suggestion for the assessment. We’re going to be supporting you and help you do the things that you need to do to support whatever that is that you’re looking for.
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So I just wanted to share that this summer in July, stay tuned, we’re going to be doing a marriage intensive retreat out at our Conroe location, which is a house, which is an Airbnb. And we just went ahead and found three acres and in the property next door that the people that own cows, it’s in the country, beautiful place to do it. And we’re going to put the house back into a place where it will be set up for couples. And so we are really excited about that. And so I just wanted to kind of throw a plug out there and we will be doing that in July, the end of July. And so stay tuned, be looking at our website, should have that up and going by next week where you can get information about it and look at it and get registered. It’s very exciting. We hope that you’ll join us there for the best Christian counseling Texas has to offer, is there anything else you would like to share about therapy? Something you’re hoping for or would you’d like to see? Anything like that?
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Okay. I want to say that your life doesn’t have to be broken or you don’t have to be in a traumatic problem before you can seek therapy. Therapy to provide clarity. If you just need a place where you want to clear your mind, you want someone like a springboard to help you assess process, whatever it is that you’re going through, therapy is a good place for you to start. You don’t have to have trauma or traumatic experiences before you can come to therapy. It could be you want a career counseling, you want clarity, consign any aspect of your life that too can be. And if children are allowed to come to, sometimes teenagers want to process some things and they don’t want their parents to know about it. This is a good place. You know that your children are safe. We are not forcing them to do some things, just helping them to get that clarity that sometimes they may not want to discuss with their parents. So whether you are a child, whether you have teenagers, whether you are transitioning between jobs, whether you’re starting your marriage, whether you are a veteran in marriage, whether you, whatever, whatever stage you are in life therapy can be good for you and we employ you to seek out the best therapies or the best therapies that takes us can offer. That’s right,
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Yes. So the different kind of focuses that we do, obviously a faith-based perspective if you want, we have Christian counselings for pastors and their families, missionaries and other church leaders. So everyone here is a Christian that works here. We do a really good job at vetting that is a requirement to work for Illuminated Pathways because it just matches our mission statement. So we want churches to feel welcome to come here. We talked about simbi at length, about the premarital, it’s about five six, you can get it done in five, but I say six and seven sessions because quite a long packet and then you’re able to really talk about it. We have play therapy, animal therapy, marriage counseling, anger management, alcohol porn recovery, grief and loss, trauma, executive functioning, kind of those, whether you’re a minor or an adult who has a DD or A DHD or brain fog.
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So a lot of brain fog has been something that’s been on the rise since COVID and those who have long haulers, I know my husband has suffered from that. And then being holistic, right, giving you those options to kind of know what can help you with nutrition, supplementation, nutraceuticals. We do offer Juice plus, which is a whole food nutrition. And so there’s really great options. We do partner with a chiropractor and her name is Dr. Amy McDaniel and her business is called Cairo on the go, she has this tall high profile van, it’s all decked out inside and she comes to you. So that’s pretty cool. So she’s in the Houston area, so if you’re in Dallas, I don’t know, it’s going to have to be a special arrangement or something, but she is in the Houston area and so I believe that she would be a huge benefit for the patients who come here to help them with that whole mind, body spirit because our body’s fully connected.
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And then we also partner with a couple of different places for psychiatry. And one of them for sure is a lot like our thinking. We’re holistic. And so yes, while medication is necessary from time to time, but not all medications necessary, not all medication you’re taking is going to help you either. So the idea of knowing what symptoms and symptomology can come from being on medications, knowing what holistic things can help also, and maybe helping you make that choice. And so Michael Almanac from Helm Psychiatry on YouTube. If you go to Illuminated Pathways Family Therapy and you go to that channel, you’ll find Helm Psychiatry. Michael, he and I did a video and it talks about what we do together here with Illuminated Pathways. So it gives you a little bit of something to go see and check out. And sometimes our kids and our teens are on medications and what we find is maybe they weren’t, and it’s not true across the board, but maybe it’s not what’s best for them.
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They just need a tool or they need encouragement or they just need to be edified and poured into poor love into them and let them know they’ve been heard. And so that’s the other part that I love about what we do here. And so definitely Duo and I, we’re not doctors. I am a wellness coach, and so I know that I, I’ve been doing wellness for about, I guess 11 years now too, so maybe 10 years, almost 11. And so I believe in that idea. And so knowing that there’s options to choose from and give you informed choices.
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So I would like to invite you to call 7 6 8 0 7 5 4 to reach out for the best Christian counseling Texas has to offer to schedule a consultation and an appointment share about, we can share with you about all our different counselors and the new additions that will be coming to work with IPFT. And we’ll also share about our grief support and see if it’s an interest to you. And maybe this is how you’d like to start. That’s every Friday, 5:00 PM $75 per session and there’s seven sessions. And so it’ll rotate after seven back to one, one through seven, one through seven. And so if you miss the first few, it’s okay, you just kind of hang in until you get all seven. And then there’s other support groups and exciting conferences. There’ll be a family technology conference June 12th and 13th and it’s $200 per family. And we’ll have special speakers and people from law enforcement and from other fields to help teach about what they see and the dangers that happen in our families.
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And so this will be my fourth time doing this type of conference. This will also be in Conroe, which we have so much space out there, and so it allows for it to be a little more comfortable and allows for you to just enjoy your time there. So June 12th and 13th. The 12th is a Friday. It’s an introduction. Kind of hear from the speakers, a little bit of pieces about them, and then all day Saturday and then you’ll be dismissed after dinner. So it’ll be nice time to gather and be together and allow for comradery among other families that’ll be there and allow you to learn about the different things that you can do to protect your families. With AI being so out there now and AI being used for relationships, super concerning. Super, super concerning for us. So no one here, no one’s allowed to just reach out to AI and do that for their work, right? Can happen. Use your creativity that God gave you. Use the brain. Learn how to educate, learn to communicate with humanity. AI is, I think it’s tantalizing to say, oh, this is such a new and upcoming thing, but it really can create problems in the family. So be careful with that. It’s just a little teaser, some things we’re going to be talking about in our Family Technology Conference.
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Thank you so much for being with us. Thank you for taking time to learn
Speaker 2 (37:06):
About
Speaker 1 (37:07):
Who Duo Samo is and we really are excited about having her here. And I know that she has room, she has more openings and we would really like to help her meet you. And so please reach out once again for the best Christian counseling Texas has to offer. You can call 7 6 8 0 7 5 4. Thank you so much. God bless. And may you continue to reach for all the dreams and goals that you aspire to have. Thank you.