Speaker 1 (00:04):
Okay. All right. Well, hello, this is Rhonda with Illuminated Pathways Family Therapy. I’m so excited to be with you today and I’m so excited that you’ve joined in and you get to hear a little bit about who we are, and I’m going to introduce to you one of my most favorite people that work here. And I’m sure a lot of you say I say this with everybody, so it’s true. They’re all good, they’re all amazing, they’re all just really special and they’re used by God. And so I’m really thankful for that. But let me go ahead and tell you a little bit about who we are. So my name again is Rhonda K Elders. I’m a licensed professional counselor supervisor with the state of Texas, and I am the owner of this place. And it’s been really fun over the last year to kind of see it grow and get excited about all the new things that are happening.
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And we’ll share a little bit of that as we go through our podcast today. Our group practice uses evidence-based modalities in addition to all the different populations of people we see from ages four and up. And we really love working with families and the network and the systems and help bring families back to God’s original design. I’ve come to value also a holistic view to what we do here, and I love that because while medicine has its place and medicine can provide us the things that we might need, it’s not always the thing we should use when it comes to our mental health. And I really believe that God’s given us everything that we need to heal our bodies if we’re given the right tools to how to do that, this is what we have learned to adopt here at Illuminated Pathways Family Therapy. So with this perspective, it gives clients access to a wider variety of therapeutic options before considering medication, empowering them to make informed choices about their treatment.
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And so that’s really important to me. While we are not doctors and we’re not in the medical field, we are part of health and human services. And so we do have great knowledge in how to help people attain the very nutritional pieces and things in life so that they can get the things that they need to help heal. So today I have Hannah Crawford with me, and we’re going to begin to talk about the best family counseling Texas has to offer. And we want you to know why that we believe that so strongly. So we do different things. So we have three locations. So here we are right now at NASA Bay, the most southern edge of Harris County, Southeast Harris County City called NASA Bay and of Houston, Texas. And we have Missouri City, which is adjacent to Sugarland, Texas, and we have Conroe, Texas. And so we have three different locations having a blast, growing, loving, doing the things we love to do and what we are called to do. So come check us out and we’ll be happy to see you and take care of you. So Ms. Hannah, there’s some exciting things coming up for you, isn’t there?
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Yes, there is.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Yes. So I would like for you to just take a moment and first of all, just kind of talk about that exciting thing before I lose it and I spill the beans and I’d rather you talk about it.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Okay. Well, one of the most exciting things is I am wrapping up my master’s degree in clinical mental health counseling. I have attained all the hours that I need and I’m going to pass my internship to class, which will allow me to graduate with a master’s in clinical mental health counseling. And I also passed my NCE, which means that I am on the trek to earn my license as an LPC associate.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
That’s so exciting. We had the pleasure of getting to know her in November, actually, probably October made the transition in November. And so, oh my gosh, what a blast we have been having. So she’s been a great addition, but it just goes to show that so we not only are fully licensed clinicians here, we’re provisionally licensed, which we’re licensed by the state, but there’s hours you still got to collect. And then we take on students to help them become the best family counseling Texas has to offer and give them the opportunity to learn all the different ins and outs of our practice to help them make informed choices about their own life and their own career. So she has chose to stay on with us. So that’s a great thing for our clients because she’s got a pretty good load of clients to see. So that’s awesome. So tell us, if you don’t mind your career choices. You weren’t always thinking about counseling, were you?
Speaker 2 (05:02):
No, my bachelor’s is actually in criminology, so I thought about being an investigator, but with the world as it was at the time that I was graduating, I decided that it wasn’t the best suited choice for me just through the channels that I would have to go through. Not that I don’t still enjoy criminology, but it’s more of a hobby versus a career.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Okay. Alright. Well I know that it’s coming helpful here when we talk about safety concerns and she’ll say, Hey, did you think about this? So it’s really nice. So when people come in with different backgrounds, it’s such a great addition to even what you’re getting ready to do and we get to think about those things and we help each other out and kind of go along. Right? So thank you for that. You’re
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Welcome.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
So what sparked your interest in counseling?
Speaker 2 (05:57):
That story kind of goes all the way back to when I first started college. I actually was trying to get a psychology degree and then I thought, I don’t want to write this many papers. And I make that face because as a master in a master’s program, you write a lot of papers. True that. And also I wrote a lot in criminology. It’s really funny how it kind of comes around the corner, but I felt that there was a calling for me to do counseling, but between life circumstances and things that just kind happened, I kind steered away from that idea. But then in I think late 2021 is when I was making the decision that I was going to go back to school and for clinical mental health counseling for a master’s degree. And then my dad passed away, which took my life a little bit off track there for about a year. But then I came back and that’s what I’ve been doing since.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Wow. Well thank you for sharing that sensitive part of your life. I know that for me, I’ve been doing counseling since 2008, so I’ve been running this practice for 11 years, but counseling since 2008. And so I know that there’s a lot of ins and outs that happen in your life. And so I know that we are blessed having you here, your vision, your expertise, your willingness to learn and try all these different new things has really made it fun around here. And you’re very social. She’s like one of our social bees butterflies, maybe I should say. And she gets everybody to communicate, which is fantastic. I love it. But I really am, I’m thankful that you chose us and so many, many years to hopefully to come. So we’ll see what happens with that. So what do you think about our animal therapy?
Speaker 2 (08:06):
I love it. I love that I get to come to work and have three dogs to play with and pet while I’m in between sessions and even in sessions when they want to join. I’m a huge animal lover and I do believe that animals help in therapy. That was the second choice that I was going to do is going to work with animals whenever it was going to be therapy and then animal therapy.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
So
Speaker 2 (08:30):
I’ve wanted to have this kind of environment since 2021 when I was making this decision.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Wow. So you knew about animal therapy before. See, and for me, I didn’t even know it was a thing. It wasn’t even discussed and any of the things. So I went and worked at my first internship and they brought in these animals. I’m like, this is really cool. Wow, this is pretty effective. And I thought, ah. And so since then, yeah, that’s what we did.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Yeah. Pretty wild, huh?
Speaker 2 (09:05):
So
Speaker 1 (09:05):
I think 20 20 13 was the first year I did animal therapy and I went to University of North Texas and took the classes for animal assisted therapy. So there’s actual classes for clinicians to take. So it’s extra outside the master’s program. And then you go through an actual work with a program to help the dog become because not an emotional support dog, not the same, an emotional support dog is just something a little doctor can write off something for you. This is an actual animal assisted therapy clinic. And so Dwight is fully assessed. Bella will be next. Connie was assessed, but Connie during COVID, he got some anxiety with the masks, so that kind of changed him a little bit. So he just kind of the house dog if you will, but Bella will be next. And Bella, we rescued her August 1st this past year. But anyway. So the best family counseling Texas has to offer. Brings us quite a bit of opportunity, doesn’t it? Yes,
Speaker 2 (10:08):
It does. So
Speaker 1 (10:09):
What do you think it brings for you?
Speaker 2 (10:12):
It brings, well, even though I see individuals, the topic is still a lot of times family issues. So even if an individual is seeking counseling and they are part of a family, sometimes working with the one individual will kind of cascade into the other areas of their life. And even in issues that somebody is experiencing in the present falls back all the way into the past when they were growing up with their family. So having a family systems look at how therapy works, able to see this is where I’m going to, you’re able to see different aspects in how family works for people and how the family unit works for each individual or couples children. We see everybody from ages five and up and it doesn’t matter what kind of background they come from, we’re always open
Speaker 1 (11:20):
To
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Everybody.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
So it’s really kind of odd because your family is your normal family. Whether we say, well, every family’s dysfunctional, I know you’ve heard that. I know I’ve said it, I know I’ve said it from my own family. Every family has some sort of dysfunction. But the thing is, is that because you’re normal is you know how you operate, how you communicate, how you expect telepathy to happen. I know what you’re thinking when it’s not at all. You can’t unzip somebody’s head and look inside and go, oh, that right there is where I’m thinking. And so I think for many families they don’t realize how much work can go a little bit of work. Lemme put it this way, a little bit of work to go into your family goes a long way to helping you function at a much more optimal way. So effective communication, learning how to body language.
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Body language used to be like, I don’t know, 75 to 80% of your language now it’s about 85, 80 5% of language communication is body language. It’s what you’re not saying, but you’re saying a whole heck of a lot. And so that idea is, and so then the rest of it’s like 10% is communication and 5% is lost in translation. Why? Because everybody’s using these to communicate and they’re not learning how to communicate otherwise. So that’s why. And then we’re assuming, oh well that was all caps in that text, so you’re yelling at me or you used a word that not text worthy, you know what I’m talking about? So this idea of what happens inside the family. And so kind of helping families get to where they need to be to put them in a place where they can really get where they want to be.
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So by coming to illuminated pathways, they get the best family counseling Texas has to offer. And so we would love to have you come and the phone number to call is seven six eight zero seven five four. And I know that for anybody here listening, you can get a consult, talk to a counselor, we have several to choose from. You can go to our website and check that out. And it would be so much fun for you to realize, honestly, at first it might feel like it’s nervous, it’s overwhelming, but then when you’re like, oh my gosh, I know the tools, I can actually do this. And it makes it funner, right? You’re not so like, oh my gosh, this is horrible. So I think that that will be really a great way. And I know that for me, when I get a kid or a teenager, I get the family
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Because if I don’t do anything with the family piece of that, I’m counting on the child to make the difference in the family. And while that can be an influence, they really don’t have the say they’re not running the house, they’re part of the family. So that’s why we need the family to incorporate in so we can then bring in those things and everybody gets heard and seen. There’s effective pieces to get into play. And so we could take without saying names, so we can take a mother-daughter with a little boy and we can think about, just so you know who I’m talking about, when one feels like they’re left to do something that they don’t want to do. And then I don’t know, we put children in charge when they shouldn’t be in charge and just because of convenience and I know, listen, I’m sure I did it. My kids are in their thirties and I’m sure they could probably, these walls could talk. I’m sure they would. So in the idea that happens, but what we would learn as we are counselors like, ooh, how unhealthy that is. And so really teaching maybe there’s ideas of responsibility but not full responsibility. And so what are some things that you’ve seen that that would be helpful at letting other people know that we have the best family counseling Texas has to offer?
Speaker 2 (15:23):
So one of the parts for counselors is advocacy. So advocating for your client, whether it’s the child or the parent, because sometimes when there’s dysfunction in the family, the communication is not there for them to be able to communicate their needs in an open and safe place for both parties to be heard. So while the child may feel I have too much responsibility, maybe the parent is, well, I don’t have enough help. So being able to communicate those two pieces to where they both can align and they can both find the structure that works for both of them. So you can advocate for both. While the child might be your client, you also have to help the parent others understand
Speaker 1 (16:13):
And
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Help the child understand.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Right? Yeah, very good. See why we like her. That’s why we like her. So when you set out to do, I’m going to do counseling, usually there’s kind of like a population that we want to start seeing. What was that for you initially? Initially then we’ll talk about further in. But initially what was that that you felt in your heart, this is what I want to do, these are the people I want to see
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Individuals that had trauma
Speaker 1 (16:50):
And then coming here, what have you learned since that initial thought?
Speaker 2 (16:57):
I actually enjoy working with teenagers.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
See, so we never really know. And by the way, I’m sure you’d be great with trauma, which you are, but the idea is to say that, well, that’s a great skillset to have, but you don’t really realize those that you are in front of. Like wow,
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Just never really thought that about me. And then God just continues to shape it and mold it and do those things. Right. That’s awesome. Absolutely. Very good. So what are some things that stand out with illuminated pathways that you like? Not that if you don’t like it, you don’t like it, but what are some things that you find are you were thankful that you not only think of that you came, but you realize that being here, this is great or this is helpful. What are those things? And let’s kind of see if we can banter a little bit back about it.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
One of the things I really appreciated was the amount of knowledge that’s in these walls, not just from you but from everybody else and their walks of life and all the resources that you have. That is a piece that I felt was lacking before I got here. Just the amount of information that I could kind of absorb about different modalities, different techniques, different theories, all these things that I had not previously looked at, I was starting to look at. So that’s been a really interesting piece. While getting a little technical here, I was all about CBT, cognitive behavioral therapy, but now I’m learning different pieces from other theories that I’m like, oh, I really like this piece. Well, I like this piece. And so I’m almost becoming a m podge of what I like to do because there’s just so many different options.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
I know that I do, I have a lot of resources, so I’ve been doing this a minute. So I, I’m not kind of, I am OCDI am very structured in general, but I have resources up the wazoo. And so anybody that comes here, they get to kind of pick out what, Hey Rhonda, do you have an idea about such and such topic? This is what’s happening in the session. And so I say, yep, and then there it is. And so I really do try, sometimes it rolls right out. Sometimes it takes me a minute. Let me think about that. But in general, because I’ve done so much and I’ve done so many different types of cases, I am known in the community for sexual assault counseling. And one of the coolest things that we’re going to get to do is work with Elijah Rising. And Elijah Rising is a human trafficking organization who rescues children and women from the horrible industry. I did just get a message from her to set up our next appointment to begin to plan. So June and July is when that starts. So it’s pretty exciting. We’re going to be, and that’s part of the World Cup. So the World Cup in Houston, Texas. So we get to take on and then that’s something extra, those that want to participate with that. So I’m pretty excited about that.
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So the best family counseling in Houston, Texas has to offer. We talked about animal therapy, we talked about the idea of play therapy. We have children, but here’s some other things that we do. Here we are and we’re really, really proud of that. And that kind of has always been, but it’s been more announced or pronounced since COVID where people would call and they really wanted Christian counseling. They could sense things were not okay in our world and they wanted somewhere to know that they could come and feel comforted and prayed over. But not everybody that comes here wants that. But in general, that’s who we are. And so we all are about bringing that system of the family that might not be working well, bringing it back to God’s original design, knowing that functionality of how he wants it, really every family wants that.
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So we have the truth, the resources and the help and the know-how to get people there. Christian counseling, I really like to open this up to pastors and their church leaders, the missionaries and the pastoral families where we have taken care of them before. And so we want to continue to do that and be available Sims, which is save your marriage before it starts. And while that is a premarital assessment and way about six to seven sessions and great way to do something before you say I do is also very helpful and very, I don’t know, pretty dynamic for people who are married and no matter how many years you’ve been married, and it will help actually pull out some things that you go, oh, I got to fix this or tweak this and get you into a place that would be super helpful. So everybody that works here, illuminated Pathways is a facilitator for that assessment.
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And so it’s very important for me that if I want people to work here, that they are aligned to everything that we do here. So that’s that. They’re all Christian and play therapy. Not everybody does play therapy, but they can all learn it because while I’m not a registered play therapist, I am highly trained and so I’m able to teach others how to do that. So every therapy room is set up for play and there is something in every room to help the children and teens do the things they need to do to have good healthy therapy sessions. We have marriage counseling. Again, there’s a lot invested in a marriage. And when we’re in a marriage and that’s not going well, I don’t want people to feel that their only option is to get a divorce. So those that do that, save your marriage before it starts or simbu assessment, no matter where you’re at in your marriage, 94%, this is their statistics, not just ours.
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Their statistics are those that do that assessment, 94% of marriages are saved. And that’s a pretty good statistic. So I really believe in that. Then we also offer management for anger, how to manage behavior modifications. A-D-D-A-D-H-D, they call it crash outs now. It used to be like you had a meltdown, now it’s crash outs. So got to keep up with the lingo. That’s what we do here. So anger management. So we teach kids that most times anger outbursts look very similar to panic attacks. Symptomatology is almost across the board the same. So they don’t realize how much, maybe that’s anxiety that really they’re dealing with that brings about the irritation, anger. And so really once they realize they get that under control, they’re able to have better. So then we help people, again, we talked about trauma, talked about grief, and we do have executive functioning. So since COVID, there are a lot of people that have brain fog, and so we have ways to help them.
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I have a modality that I use called image transformation therapy, and it helps even with tinnitus or tinnitus, whatever word you choose, tomato, tomato. And there is an actual doctor’s office in the area that sends their patients here because we’re able to help them with that. And so that’s really not an ear issue, it’s a brain. And so when we can heal the brain through cognitive behavior therapy pieces, they actually reduce the tinnitus, the ringing, and it actually reduces it and they’re able to get rid of it. So it’s really, it’s a beautiful method by the way, and it helps so many things. It’s a game changer.
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Then there’s recoveries for alcohol, drugs, pornography, gaming, social media. And so we don’t realize how much of that takes in sex up time and it really can affect our life personally, our marriages, our families. So again, it goes back to family. So being the best family counseling Texas has to offer, that’s illuminated pathways. The other part that’s really exciting is the award we got last year. So Houston’s the number four city and the largest fourth largest city in the United States, Harris County. We are second in Harris County, which is covers Houston and other surrounding cities. But illuminated pathways is number two based on Google. So we’re pretty proud of that. So we’ve got a really nice reputation over here. What are some other things kind of listed some of those that we do here? I’m sure there’s things that you could think of too, but what are some things that you really are excited about helping people with?
Speaker 2 (26:27):
You kind of touched on it a little bit, helping people through anxiety. That’s one of the biggest things that I’ve seen in my clientele, those who I see. Anxiety is a really big issue for people. And communication, being able to communicate with people. Those two pieces show up a lot in my sessions with a variety. I mean, I see 6-year-old and up, so I see a lot of issues surrounding those two pieces for people at any age, at any life stage, and in any environment, even with couples, even with families, those two pieces are really huge for them. Another piece would be just education, educating people on things that they were unaware of. Things that, especially with anxiety, people don’t understand that anxiety is actually normal. We naturally have anxiety as our people call it instincts, but we were given God’s gift of anxiety to alarm us and to help us be aware of our surroundings.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
So
Speaker 2 (27:42):
That’s normal. And then we have excitement or apprehension. We’re excited. Waking up the night, you’re going to bed the night before Christmas, waking up the next morning. I’m excited. That’s anxiety, but that’s good anxiety, that’s excitement. People don’t know. They hear anxiety and they think, oh, that’s bad. That’s bad. I don’t want that. I don’t want anything to do with that. It’s not the anxiety piece, it’s the anxiety overload that people struggle with. So that education piece helps normalize those emotions and those feelings for people that struggle with that, and that helps them ease into the healing process a little bit better.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
I love that because anytime you’re going to get up and talk in front of somebody, that anxiety that you’re feeling is actually natural. It’s going to help you stay on your toes, be aware of your surroundings, but when it gets out of control, that dysfunctional feel you have or you can’t regulate. That’s where we begin to work on those tools. But our body needs that anxiety. It tells us when it’s danger or when it’s exciting, when it’s not okay. When it’s okay. And it’s the same thing for anger, by the way. So in the Bible it talks about be slow to anger, but then there’s a time where it talks about it’s okay to have a righteous anger. So when is righteous anger involved when children are being hurt and abused? This chick, she has a righteous anger, don’t jack with the kids. That’s what’s known around here.
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And so parents that need help and get their families together, our job is to take care of your children. You adults need to get it together, but your children are affected by what that’s happening. So I’m all about that anger that they’re presenting. It’s because they don’t know how to regulate, but they need to be able to be angry because it’s not okay what’s happening. But it’s not like we can’t say, well, you can’t be angry. Well, that’s like saying, well, you can’t breathe right. You tell me, okay, you’ve never had road rage. You’ve never honked your horn at somebody, right? Come on. This is the thing. So when we tell our children that they can’t do these things, we’re teaching them that they can’t cry, they can’t be angry, and they can’t be anxious, what are they going to do with all that pent up energy? It’s going to come out and when it comes out, then all of a sudden they get in trouble. So we got to teach families this is the best way to help teach the best family counseling Texas has to offer others how to regulate themselves and when it’s okay to do or have those sensations or those feelings along the way.
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And I think that that’s part of the drive I have because that psychoeducation that you talked about right now, it is so important. We don’t realize how important it is to let people know that it’s okay. Everybody handles loss different, right? Yeah. Yeah. And that’s, man, okay, you talking about family reunions, what do those happen? I remember growing up we had ’em every year. Now family reunions happen at weddings or funerals. I don’t know, maybe you still have one that’s wonderful for you, but most of the time it’s during those and it’s like you get the best or the worst in people at weddings and funerals because nobody knows how to deal. And everybody’s told, oh, you can’t behave that way. You can’t think that way. Or Why are you feeling that? Or you’re still grieving or who said there’s a right. So that’s really important to realize that there is no timeline.
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And I look at that if I can kind of, and you can add to this if you’d like, when I’m working with people who are working through something very difficult, I liken it to being out in the ocean, maybe above the knee, not deeper, just the water’s above the knee and then the water recedes. But at the top parts at the knee, above the knee. And sometimes the waves are gentle. And so sometimes when you’re grieving, it can be gentle and sometimes those waves just knock your knees out and sometimes that grief just knocks you out and you got to learn to get your standing again. And sometimes it’s a little rough for a while that undertow is like, man, can it just stop? But isn’t that how it is? And if we can say that we don’t get over somebody, we get over a crashed car, you get a new replacement, you break a phone, you get a new phone, you get over that, but you don’t get over a loss. You learn how to go with the waves. Sometimes they’re gentle, sometimes they’re still, and sometimes they’re real rough. And we just have to learn how to teach people that is normal.
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I love that. When I’m able to give that analogy, it awakens them to like, oh my gosh. Yeah. What is something that you’ve learned about that,
Speaker 2 (33:11):
About grief specifically? Well,
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Just teaching people or maybe even yourself with your dad. I mean, you don’t have to talk about your dad, but grief is different. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Yeah. Grief is different. I guess to speak to that. In my journey, I discovered that there’s grief, then there’s prolonged grief. And they are two different experiences. And it’s unfortunate when people go through that. But the people who don’t have not had a loss to that level, it’s hard for them to understand what that looks like, that missing piece. So it’s not just having people understand their grief, but maybe their loved ones. Maybe in the family, maybe in a couple’s situation, we have one that experiences grief and one that doesn’t. And it’s not just having the person who’s going through the grief understand it’s the person who’s walking beside the person who’s experiencing it, having both of them understand,
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Right? So eliminated pathways, we have a a grief support group every Friday at five. It’s online Texas wide. It’s a great way to come participate. There’s seven sessions, it’ll rotate every seven weeks. It’s just going to be seven sessions and keep going every Friday at five. And we want to do that because we feel like it’s a great way to kind of help the family. I mean, if we talk about people who have an addiction, we have the person who is the one who struggles with the addiction, and then there’s the family who also suffers watching that person with the addiction. So this grief counseling support system that we have on Fridays at five is for every person. And it’s going to be helpful across the board.
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I think what I’m going to let, how I have it structured, it allows people to just come in and out. If we’re going to be on session four this week, today at five, and it’s $75 per person to attend. And so you just call 9 7 6 8 0 7 5 4. And I think that that would be great. So each Friday, five o’clock grief supports group, and whether it’s you personally dealing with the grief or you’re on the outside looking at the grief, what happened maybe to your loved one or your partner, or you don’t understand why somebody’s still suffering or grieving, it’s not about you, right? I hate to say it like that. It’s about the person going through it. And the more you can learn to adopt that in every area, actually, it’d be super helpful for everyone in the family. So this is why we really work on being the best family counseling Texas has to offer. I’m really excited that you took time to join me today, Hannah. We’re very excited for you. Congratulations on passing that big exam. Thank you. And so you’re very welcome and we are blessed to have you. And so I’m really glad you reached out in November is the best decision I made. I know for sure. And I’m not just saying that I really believe that in my soul.
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In conclusion, as we wrap up, I want to invite you to call 9 7 2 7 6 8 0 7 5 4 to schedule a consultation with one of our amazing counselors, and we have another one coming on soon. We’re very excited about that. She’ll start the 26th, and then we have some students starting pretty soon too, so I’m really excited about that. Also. You are welcome to visit our website, learn a little bit more about us. Net is illuminated pathways therapy.net, and you can see our counselors, their bios. You can kind of take a peek at some of the things we do here, who we are, what we stand for, and just kind of realize that we really are here for the community of what God put us in front of, but we really want to be the best family counseling Texas has to offer so that you can also see that here, not only for your personal life, but maybe even for your family. But is there anything else you would like to say? No.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
I just thank you for this opportunity to join you and to join today.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Yes, thank you so much. Have a blessed day everyone.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
We
Speaker 1 (37:58):
Look forward to meeting with you again and tell next time, keep the joy in your heart and a song in your heart and know that God loves you and we do too. We’re praying for you to walk through our door. We might not know you yet, but that’s yet, and so we look forward to seeing you soon. Bye-bye. Okay, cool.